Episode 103 |

Live Each Day Like It’s Your Last with Getrude Matshe

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This Week’s Guest:

How would your life change if you saw every hardship and obstacle you encountered as a promise of a better future rather than as something that ruins your plans (or just your day)? This kind of perspective is often clear in hindsight, but may be harder to see in the moment. I hope that today’s conversation with Getrude Matshe, who opens up about her recent near-death experience and how past obstacles have led to her happy present, will help give you some of that perspective.


Getrude Matshe is a native of Zimbabwe who now lives in New Zealand. She’s passionate about improving the human condition (which she ties to the concept of Ubuntu) and is working to make healthcare more accessible. Another of her deep passions is helping people find their individual life purpose and live consciously. She’s the author of Born on the Continent as well as a forthcoming book about her recent near-death experience, Dying in the Rice Paddies of Saba.


Find Out More About Getrude Here:

Getrude Matshe on LinkedIn
Getrude Matshe on the Women Economic Forum
Getrude Matshe on Huffpost
@GetrudeMatshe on Twitter


In This Episode:

  • [01:52] – Getrude starts things off by telling listeners about her recent near-death experience in Bali.
  • [03:45] – Getrude provides more details about the experience itself, and emotionally relates her sense of feeling that her work isn’t yet finished.
  • [05:37] – How long did Getrude stay in the hospital?
  • [06:46] – Currently, a few weeks after the experience, Getrude doesn’t feel fully recovered and still has some trouble exercising.
  • [09:08] – Getrude found her Bali trip transformational on many levels, she explains, beginning with the birthday on which her children gifted her the trip.
  • [11:53] – We hear about the importance of learning to love yourself first instead of looking for love externally.
  • [12:42] – Stephan shares a recent experience from a Kabbalah class. Getrude then discusses taking off layers to look at herself for who she is.
  • [15:22] – We hear about Stephan’s emotional reaction to his own divorce.
  • [17:07] – Getrude shares a lesson about family that she learned from her divorce.
  • [20:02] – Looking back, what you thought was your worst day may actually be your best day, Stephan points out. He then relates this to his own life.
  • [21:57] – Another lesson that Getrude learned from her experiences is the importance of letting go.
  • [24:07] – Getrude points out that she thought that the people who would benefit from the divorce are the lawyers. She then shares the words that she spoke to her ex-husband as she left.
  • [25:45] – Getrude talks about her newest book, Dying in the Rice Fields of Saba.
  • [29:16] – Is the principle of Ubuntu in the new book? As Gertrude answers, she offers an explanation of what Ubuntu means.
  • [32:10] – Getrude talks about how she ended up in New Zealand (after growing up in Zimbabwe), including why she left her home country. She talks about the struggles of moving, and explains how they turned out to be blessings.
  • [36:46] – We hear about Getrude’s life and successes since she made it to New Zealand. She also describes her first book, Born on the Continent.
  • [40:52] – Does Getrude have a name for the film trilogy she has been talking about? She answers, then explains where in the process she is.
  • [42:19] – Getrude talks about the charity she set up, Africa Thrive. Stephan then brings up her story of turning shipping containers into clinics, and Getrude discusses her plans.
  • [45:01] – It’s a matter of using guerrilla warfare tactics for health, Getrude points out.
  • [46:03] – Stephan and Getrude talk about how they met around a decade ago, and the path of their friendship since then.
  • [49:21] – If Getrude could offer one piece of advice to listeners to make a difference in the world, what would it be?


Links and Resources:

Getrude Matshe on LinkedIn
Getrude Matshe on the Women Economic Forum
Getrude Matshe on Huffpost
@GetrudeMatshe on Twitter
Born on the Continent 
Laughing Buddha
On Guerrilla Warfare by Mao Tse-tung




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