Episode 131 |

Unlock the Secrets of Your Soul: Eliyahu Jian

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This Week’s Guest:

One of the differences between people who struggle in life and those who glide through it  is their mindset. The mind is split into two parts: the positive and the negative. Whatever you feed grows stronger, and it takes a lifetime of work to ensure that negative thoughts don’t take over. This doesn’t mean you can only focus on positive thoughts. You also need to act on positive thoughts  or they will eventually become rotten. This is just one of many gems of wisdom from Kabbalah that can transform your life.

If you’ve heard this podcast before (especially the episode with Yehuda Ashkenazi), you probably know how strongly I feel about Kabbalah. The practice has really changed me and made me a better human with an awareness that each and every one of us is a spiritual being. Eliyahu Jian was my very first Kabbalah teacher. He’s been teaching for nearly three decades, and has developed an uncanny ability to simplify esoteric wisdom. In addition to being a spiritual teacher, he’s a coach, speaker, and founder of the nonprofit Vital Transformation.

Find Out More About Eliyahu Here:

Vital Transformation
Eliyahu Jian
Eliyahu Jian on Facebook
@eliyahujian on Twitter
Eliyahu Jian on LinkedIn


In This Episode:

  • [01:32] – We start things off with a very simple question: what’s the meaning of life?
  • [02:57] – Eliyahu talks more about body consciousness as opposed to soul consciousness.
  • [05:03] – We hear about the deeper implications of the fact that we don’t have free will about what thoughts come into our minds.
  • [06:56] – Many people who struggle in life are actually struggling with their own minds, Yehuda explains.
  • [08:28] – Eliyahu shares the parable of two wolves, illustrating the importance of feeding positive thoughts.
  • [11:48] – With every new president that’s elected, Eliyahu points out, people have hope that their lives will get better. This takes away their free will.
  • [15:51] – When we look at a historical great leader, such as Gandhi, they were a personification of the collective consciousness. Stephan and Eliyahu discuss this concept, as well as the concept of saviors.
  • [21:25] – Stephan talks about an example he experienced of a time when he resolved a conflict with light instead of by locking horns.
  • [23:25] – Eliyahu shares his thoughts and wisdom on the example that Stephan has just shared.
  • [25:40] – If you’re experiencing a lack or a void, doesn’t that awaken or attract more lack and more voids in other areas?
  • [28:36] – Stephan shares a story that Ephraim Olschewski told about what he asks his kids when they’re unhappy about something.
  • [30:26] – Eliyahu elabores on the Kabbalistic concept of creating negative angels.
  • [33:47] – Stephan brings up the role of numerology in Kabbalah.
  • [34:52] – We hear about the concept of the evil eye, and how it’s related to jealousy. The question of “how many,” Eliyahu explains, creates the evil eye.
  • [40:18] – Eliyahu moves on from the topic of the evil eye to the concept of evil speech.
  • [44:47] – Stephan describes a point that has been one of the cornerstones of his spiritual development in recent years: restriction.
  • [46:53] – Eliyahu discusses a lesson he learned while he was working in a rehab in Florida for two years.
  • [49:12] – We hear a specific example to clarify what Eliyahu has been saying about restriction. Stephan then shares an example of his own to illuminate how this concept has improved his life.
  • [53:59] – Eliyahu talks about what is beautiful about Stephan’s choice to restrict sugar along with his daughter.
  • [57:19] – The reflection on others bears repeating, Eliyahu points out, explaining why working together is so important.
  • [58:00] – Where should listeners go to find out more about Eliyahu?

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Your Checklist of Actions to Take

☑ Take care of my soul before taking care of my body. Prioritize both spiritual and physical health.

☑ Act fast on my positive thoughts and let go of my negative thoughts. This is a great practice that will let me pursue great ideas and get rid of negativity.

☑ Use my time wisely. Always aim to bring value that is beneficial to myself and others.

☑ Broaden my divine awareness and deepen my relationship with a higher being. Build a strong connection through prayer and meditation.

☑ Don’t depend on others to be happy. Only I have the power to make myself happy and to make changes in my life.

☑ Learn how to lead my own body and soul before leading others. I cannot influence others without being a good example.

☑ Continue to be aware of what’s happening around my society but don’t fixate on the negative topics. Let go of the things that I cannot control but try my best to be a good citizen.

☑ Break the habit of complaining when I am uneasy. Find a way to deal with the situation without emitting negative energy.

☑ Avoid “evil speech” where I talk negatively about someone without any benefits for myself, the person I’m talking about or the person I am talking to.

☑ Learn more about Kabbalah and its principles with Eliyahu Jian at Vital Transformation.



S: We’re gonna get all spiritual in this episode number 131. Specifically, we’re gonna talk Kabbalah. Now, we’ve first covered Kabbalah in episode 98 with Yehuda Ashkenazi, my Kabbalah teacher. I love Kabbalah, it’s really changed me, it’s made me a better human which reminds me of the expression,“We’re not human being having a spiritual experience. We’re spiritual beings having a human experience.” It’s just so profound and I believe it’s so true. My very first Kabbalah teacher was Eliyahu Jian and that’s our guest today. Eliyahu has been teaching Kabbalah for nearly 30 years. He’s got an uncanny ability to simplify esoteric wisdom. He’s a coach, speaker, spiritual teacher, and founder of the non-profit Vital Transformation. Eliyahu, it’s great to have you on the show.


E: Thank you for having me.


S: Let’s start with a simple question. What’s the meaning of life?


E: Very simple question, right? Very, very simple. The meaning of life is first, to stay alive as long as we can and taking care of this vehicle called body. The soul that live within this body need to reach the purpose by going to that paradox of the body consciousness versus the soul consciousness, which is the body is all about, of course, receiving a little bit selfish and the soul is all about more mature, more giving, more loving. The purpose of life is to live with those two forces and that’s basically us, our awareness and consciousness, that’s us, the bridge between the soul and the body. The meaning of life is when a person is able and when you will be able and capable to overcome the body needs or desire of survivals and reach out to their soul purpose, which is more giving, loving, forgiving.


S: What is this body consciousness versus the soul consciousness? If you had to describe our evolution of our consciousness.


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